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		<title>By: John Fry</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 04:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree absolutely w/Dave Bagley. And to further his points....MOST Redskin football fans simply aren&#039;t baseball fans. Lets be honest....modern day football is akin to ancient Roman gladiator days...violence and mayhem is the entertaining factor. And I&#039;m fine w/that...it&#039;s not a prob....but let there be not mistake....the fan base of baseball and football games are simply not the same....the pace, the atmosphere, the stadium size, the amount of time commitment, the number of home games...etc. I just don&#039;t see how or why the 2 teams/games need to be compared as aggressively as posts suggests.

Perhaps a Yankee or RedSox fan would disagree...but at this point in time it&#039;s great to go a Nats game on a nice day when they field a team that simply has a decent chance to win....for my money it takes the edge off of living in a city that takes itself way too seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree absolutely w/Dave Bagley. And to further his points&#8230;.MOST Redskin football fans simply aren&#8217;t baseball fans. Lets be honest&#8230;.modern day football is akin to ancient Roman gladiator days&#8230;violence and mayhem is the entertaining factor. And I&#8217;m fine w/that&#8230;it&#8217;s not a prob&#8230;.but let there be not mistake&#8230;.the fan base of baseball and football games are simply not the same&#8230;.the pace, the atmosphere, the stadium size, the amount of time commitment, the number of home games&#8230;etc. I just don&#8217;t see how or why the 2 teams/games need to be compared as aggressively as posts suggests.</p>
<p>Perhaps a Yankee or RedSox fan would disagree&#8230;but at this point in time it&#8217;s great to go a Nats game on a nice day when they field a team that simply has a decent chance to win&#8230;.for my money it takes the edge off of living in a city that takes itself way too seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bagley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Bagley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 17:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris Courogen
Bringing up the Nats struggles before they moved to DC makes no sense at all, different ownership, different market, and DC is not a small market, it&#039;s a top ten tv market nationwide and per capita only one or two greater metropolitan area can compete with the affluency of the Greater DC area.  
The Nats market (and the owners sweetheart deal with the city) will allow them to support a team payroll that will eventually slot-in between 7th and 10th highest in the league.  The Phillies will not be able to maintain the payroll they have now and will need in the near future to keep all the key players they will need to maintain the dynasty status they currently enjoy.  It&#039;s why Nats fans are already thinking that Jayson Werth would be a nice fit in RF for the Nats next year.
Three years ago no one would have called DC a great hockey town, but I heard non-local hockey commentators refer to DC as such within the last month.  With the lineup the Nats will be able to start the season with next year, there&#039;s no reason the same thing can&#039;t begin to happen for the Nats, and on a larger scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris Courogen<br />
Bringing up the Nats struggles before they moved to DC makes no sense at all, different ownership, different market, and DC is not a small market, it&#8217;s a top ten tv market nationwide and per capita only one or two greater metropolitan area can compete with the affluency of the Greater DC area.<br />
The Nats market (and the owners sweetheart deal with the city) will allow them to support a team payroll that will eventually slot-in between 7th and 10th highest in the league.  The Phillies will not be able to maintain the payroll they have now and will need in the near future to keep all the key players they will need to maintain the dynasty status they currently enjoy.  It&#8217;s why Nats fans are already thinking that Jayson Werth would be a nice fit in RF for the Nats next year.<br />
Three years ago no one would have called DC a great hockey town, but I heard non-local hockey commentators refer to DC as such within the last month.  With the lineup the Nats will be able to start the season with next year, there&#8217;s no reason the same thing can&#8217;t begin to happen for the Nats, and on a larger scale.</p>
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		<title>By: webberdc</title>
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		<dc:creator>webberdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 17:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why there are more Nats bloggers is that there is more to discuss for those without inside access in baseball than football.  There are 10x more games to digest -- 162 to 16 -- without any need for interviewing the participants.

I met Wilbon a few times and I once discussed with him which sport drives more readers to dead tree papers sports pages and he agreed baseball.  6 months of regular season versus 4, and, like the dead tree and internet, the games are &quot;published&quot; daily.  These 162 unique events -- and the accompanying features, columns, and news items that accompany those events -- just provide more fodder.

Skins will remain #1 for fans and traffic, but the Nats will eventually be #2 and it won&#039;t be close.  It makes all the sense in the world to lead blogging sports coverage with the Nats, but I&#039;ve been telling Agent Steiz this for years (intermittently).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why there are more Nats bloggers is that there is more to discuss for those without inside access in baseball than football.  There are 10x more games to digest &#8212; 162 to 16 &#8212; without any need for interviewing the participants.</p>
<p>I met Wilbon a few times and I once discussed with him which sport drives more readers to dead tree papers sports pages and he agreed baseball.  6 months of regular season versus 4, and, like the dead tree and internet, the games are &#8220;published&#8221; daily.  These 162 unique events &#8212; and the accompanying features, columns, and news items that accompany those events &#8212; just provide more fodder.</p>
<p>Skins will remain #1 for fans and traffic, but the Nats will eventually be #2 and it won&#8217;t be close.  It makes all the sense in the world to lead blogging sports coverage with the Nats, but I&#8217;ve been telling Agent Steiz this for years (intermittently).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Courogen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Courogen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 19:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan S. -- Don&#039;t confuse the NBA with basketball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan S. &#8212; Don&#8217;t confuse the NBA with basketball.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Steinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 18:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it&#039;s not either/or. But the headline here says leading on the Nats could be as valuable as catching up on the Skins. My gut tells me that&#039;s the case only if the Nats are an actual World Series contender, and probably not even then. Just my guess.

And you could make similar arguments about the Caps and Wizards, which have (I&#039;d think) pretty similar existing coverage as the Nats. Actually, there&#039;s probably less Wizards coverage out there than there is for the Nats, who have four legit beat writers (Zuckerman, Goessling, Kilgore, McNally). And this is a basketball town much more than a baseball town historically, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it&#8217;s not either/or. But the headline here says leading on the Nats could be as valuable as catching up on the Skins. My gut tells me that&#8217;s the case only if the Nats are an actual World Series contender, and probably not even then. Just my guess.</p>
<p>And you could make similar arguments about the Caps and Wizards, which have (I&#8217;d think) pretty similar existing coverage as the Nats. Actually, there&#8217;s probably less Wizards coverage out there than there is for the Nats, who have four legit beat writers (Zuckerman, Goessling, Kilgore, McNally). And this is a basketball town much more than a baseball town historically, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-29912&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Dan Steinberg&lt;/a&gt; 

I&#039;m saving my entry on our 24-hour D.C. Divas network for later. Can&#039;t reveal all our tricks just yet.

I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll abandon paying attention to reader interest to pursue some high-minded leading-versus-following concept...the point is that we can&#039;t ignore the Nats. Incidentally, I&#039;ve been linked to your blog many a time. It&#039;s a damn good blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-29912" rel="nofollow">@Dan Steinberg</a> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m saving my entry on our 24-hour D.C. Divas network for later. Can&#8217;t reveal all our tricks just yet.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll abandon paying attention to reader interest to pursue some high-minded leading-versus-following concept&#8230;the point is that we can&#8217;t ignore the Nats. Incidentally, I&#8217;ve been linked to your blog many a time. It&#8217;s a damn good blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Buttry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Buttry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 18:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not either/or, Dan (Steinberg). Dan (Victor) didn&#039;t say that TBD won&#039;t compete on the Redskins (we will), just that the Nats might provide the better growth opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not either/or, Dan (Steinberg). Dan (Victor) didn&#8217;t say that TBD won&#8217;t compete on the Redskins (we will), just that the Nats might provide the better growth opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Steinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 18:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, maybe. But if leading is always better than playing catch-up, couldn&#039;t you say the same thing about dominating coverage of D.C. United? Or the D.C. Divas? Or the Washington Kastles?

It&#039;s about more than leading vs. following; it&#039;s about reader interest. Our experience has shown that the interest in the Redskins is massively, overwhelmingly, obscenely, ridiculously greater than the interest in anything else, to the point where the most minute and inconsequential Redskins story will get more eyeballs than major developments concerning any other D.C. franchise.

So sure, in theory, whatever. But in practice, I&#039;d still hitch my saddle to the 19th best Redskins blog than the center of the Nats universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, maybe. But if leading is always better than playing catch-up, couldn&#8217;t you say the same thing about dominating coverage of D.C. United? Or the D.C. Divas? Or the Washington Kastles?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about more than leading vs. following; it&#8217;s about reader interest. Our experience has shown that the interest in the Redskins is massively, overwhelmingly, obscenely, ridiculously greater than the interest in anything else, to the point where the most minute and inconsequential Redskins story will get more eyeballs than major developments concerning any other D.C. franchise.</p>
<p>So sure, in theory, whatever. But in practice, I&#8217;d still hitch my saddle to the 19th best Redskins blog than the center of the Nats universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-29908&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Chris Courogen&lt;/a&gt; 

Good questions. For one, this isn&#039;t a statement on the Nats&#039; future success, just their future fandom. I have faith that the Nats can at least be competitive...a core of Ryan Zimmerman, Stephen Strasburg, Derek Norris and Bryce Harper (I&#039;m assuming) is nothing to sneeze at. I don&#039;t know if they&#039;ll ever win a World Series, but at some point I do think they&#039;ll be playing with the rest of the NL East. A relatively small amount of success, along with a little more longevity here, will be enough to at least increase the interest in the Nats. 

As far as competing with the WaPo: First of all, we&#039;ll have our own beat writers/columnists that readers can connect to, but I think you&#039;re underestimating how powerful the blog network can become. Some bloggers are credentialed themselves, and some of them already have considerable followings. We can develop name brands like Boswell -- and who&#039;s to say we won&#039;t link to Boswell himself? The key will be offering something different than Nats fans have seen before, and this blog network will be one part of that. We&#039;ll also be an easy place to go for EVERYTHING Nats, not just that one columnist you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-29908" rel="nofollow">@Chris Courogen</a> </p>
<p>Good questions. For one, this isn&#8217;t a statement on the Nats&#8217; future success, just their future fandom. I have faith that the Nats can at least be competitive&#8230;a core of Ryan Zimmerman, Stephen Strasburg, Derek Norris and Bryce Harper (I&#8217;m assuming) is nothing to sneeze at. I don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;ll ever win a World Series, but at some point I do think they&#8217;ll be playing with the rest of the NL East. A relatively small amount of success, along with a little more longevity here, will be enough to at least increase the interest in the Nats. </p>
<p>As far as competing with the WaPo: First of all, we&#8217;ll have our own beat writers/columnists that readers can connect to, but I think you&#8217;re underestimating how powerful the blog network can become. Some bloggers are credentialed themselves, and some of them already have considerable followings. We can develop name brands like Boswell &#8212; and who&#8217;s to say we won&#8217;t link to Boswell himself? The key will be offering something different than Nats fans have seen before, and this blog network will be one part of that. We&#8217;ll also be an easy place to go for EVERYTHING Nats, not just that one columnist you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Courogen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Courogen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 15:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiosity, what gives you such faith in the Nats&#039; future success? The franchise&#039;s struggles long pre-date its arrival in DC. It is a small market, split with the Orioles, and thus will never likely have the deep pockets it sadly seems are required to support the kind of payroll it takes to be consistently successful. They play in the same division as the Phillies, who are currently enjoying near dynasty status with a nucleus that would seem to ensure they will maintain such status for years barring significant injuries. 

And even if they do enjoy success, I wonder if your site will be able to compete with WaPo given the established beat writers with credentialed access and connections with the sources on the Nats beat. 

Not saying TBD can&#039;t gain traction or build traffic with Nats coverage, but &quot;center of the Nats online universe&quot; might be tough to do going up against Boswell et al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, what gives you such faith in the Nats&#8217; future success? The franchise&#8217;s struggles long pre-date its arrival in DC. It is a small market, split with the Orioles, and thus will never likely have the deep pockets it sadly seems are required to support the kind of payroll it takes to be consistently successful. They play in the same division as the Phillies, who are currently enjoying near dynasty status with a nucleus that would seem to ensure they will maintain such status for years barring significant injuries. </p>
<p>And even if they do enjoy success, I wonder if your site will be able to compete with WaPo given the established beat writers with credentialed access and connections with the sources on the Nats beat. </p>
<p>Not saying TBD can&#8217;t gain traction or build traffic with Nats coverage, but &#8220;center of the Nats online universe&#8221; might be tough to do going up against Boswell et al</p>
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